Comments on: Send a message to Ed Cote and the other WA superdelegates http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/ Politics of the People Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:23:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Dr. Teresa Hastings http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44513 Dr. Teresa Hastings Sat, 31 May 2008 23:13:01 +0000 http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44513 My demographics: older, educated, white woman, feminist, active in local & national politics, clinical psychologist, single parent of a feminist young woman, grandmother of a budding feminist. Came from poor, Appalachian farming roots. I have long been an active fan of yours and generally respect your philosophies and decisions. I initially endorsed Senator Clinton, but have witnessed her forego her integrity, making unforgiveable tactical references to racism and violence, practicing truthiness & flip flopping for personal gain, and engaging in the same ole - same ole dirty politics. It is so disappointing to see her damage our party in this way. I urge you to change your endorsement to Senator Obama ASAP to end this. If not, I will reconsider my endorsement of you in the future. OUR future as a country is at stake. Sincerely, Teresa Hastings My demographics: older, educated, white woman, feminist, active in local & national politics, clinical psychologist, single parent of a feminist young woman, grandmother of a budding feminist. Came from poor, Appalachian farming roots. I have long been an active fan of yours and generally respect your philosophies and decisions. I initially endorsed Senator Clinton, but have witnessed her forego her integrity, making unforgiveable tactical references to racism and violence, practicing truthiness & flip flopping for personal gain, and engaging in the same ole - same ole dirty politics. It is so disappointing to see her damage our party in this way. I urge you to change your endorsement to Senator Obama ASAP to end this. If not, I will reconsider my endorsement of you in the future. OUR future as a country is at stake. Sincerely, Teresa Hastings

]]> By: bushtool http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44445 bushtool Tue, 20 May 2008 01:06:18 +0000 http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44445 I do agree that Florida and some other states are going to be quite troublesome for Obama to win over but that is a challenge I believe he is prepared to meet. I do agree that Florida and some other states are going to be quite troublesome for Obama to win over but that is a challenge I believe he is prepared to meet.

]]> By: bushtool http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44444 bushtool Tue, 20 May 2008 01:04:30 +0000 http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44444 Thanks for posting your links. I looked at your electoral maps and have trouble seeing how they will correspond with reality once we get to election day. There are lots of new people registering to vote this year. There are also lots of independents and republicans moving away from the GOP. The dynamics of the voting pattern may change dramatically once the nomination process is over and the vice-presidential candidates are chosen. The inevitable focus on race as a demographic factor is another dynamic that these polls may not accurately depict. For the above reasons as mentioned in <a href="http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2008/4/11/mccains-poll-numbers-are-breaking-the-idea-of-traditional-red-and-blue-states.html" rel="nofollow">this article</a> and many others, trying to assess how the chips are going to ultimately fall in November is a wild-ass guess at best. Thanks for posting your links. I looked at your electoral maps and have trouble seeing how they will correspond with reality once we get to election day.

There are lots of new people registering to vote this year. There are also lots of independents and republicans moving away from the GOP. The dynamics of the voting pattern may change dramatically once the nomination process is over and the vice-presidential candidates are chosen. The inevitable focus on race as a demographic factor is another dynamic that these polls may not accurately depict.

For the above reasons as mentioned in this article and many others, trying to assess how the chips are going to ultimately fall in November is a wild-ass guess at best.

]]> By: GEE http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44437 GEE Sat, 17 May 2008 02:26:23 +0000 http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44437 Electoral math: <a href="http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/May16.html" rel="nofollow">McCain vs Obama</a> <a href="http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Clinton/Maps/May16.html" rel="nofollow">McCain vs Clinton</a> Electoral math:

McCain vs Obama

McCain vs Clinton

]]> By: Matt http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44344 Matt Fri, 02 May 2008 18:04:01 +0000 http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44344 Hitler?? Your credibility hit zero with that comparison. Hitler?? Your credibility hit zero with that comparison.

]]> By: Mariann http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44096 Mariann Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:48:47 +0000 http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44096 nothing wrong with freedom of speach, I for one am glad its there for us, but just as one has the right to say it, everyone else has the right not to & speak out against it. And no one is lynching Obama, he's cutting off his own head. Guilt by association, its actually a law. Is Obama above the law? I think not. nothing wrong with freedom of speach, I for one am glad its there for us, but just as one has the right to say it, everyone else has the right not to & speak out against it. And no one is lynching Obama, he’s cutting off his own head. Guilt by association, its actually a law. Is Obama above the law? I think not.

]]> By: Beth http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44078 Beth Tue, 18 Mar 2008 02:06:22 +0000 http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44078 I don't recall Hillary's campaign asking him to denounce what Mr. Wright said while Obama's campaign demanded it. Even though Obama has only been in the senate for 2 years, I didn't question his qualifications. If I were voting simply on the basis of qualifications then my vote would go to McCain, who is now leading them both in most polls. I don’t recall Hillary’s campaign asking him to denounce what Mr. Wright said while Obama’s campaign demanded it.

Even though Obama has only been in the senate for 2 years, I didn’t question his qualifications. If I were voting simply on the basis of qualifications then my vote would go to McCain, who is now leading them both in most polls.

]]> By: bushtool http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44076 bushtool Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:32:31 +0000 http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44076 Perhaps Hillary and Obama <strong>were both</strong> unfairly maligned for the comments of others from which they both have disassociated themselves. Likewise, it would seem that in neither case does this therefore in any way disqualify them as lacking the prerequisite qualifications to be president. Perhaps Hillary and Obama were both unfairly maligned for the comments of others from which they both have disassociated themselves.

Likewise, it would seem that in neither case does this therefore in any way disqualify them as lacking the prerequisite qualifications to be president.

]]> By: Beth http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44074 Beth Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:46:35 +0000 http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44074 Freedom of speech unless you are speaking of Obama? I guess thats where it gets a little hinky for me. Maybe Geraldine Ferraro should have realized that sooner. We should all have the right to freedom of speech, not just the Obama camp. Sorry, they have to do better with their damage control next time. Too little; too late. Freedom of speech unless you are speaking of Obama? I guess thats where it gets a little hinky for me. Maybe Geraldine Ferraro should have realized that sooner. We should all have the right to freedom of speech, not just the Obama camp. Sorry, they have to do better with their damage control next time. Too little; too late.

]]> By: bushtool http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44061 bushtool Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:52:00 +0000 http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44061 <a href="http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_siriusss_080315_freedom_of_speech_an.htm" target="blank" rel="nofollow">Freedom of Speech and Jeremiah Wright: the lynching of Barack Obama</a> Freedom of Speech and Jeremiah Wright: the lynching of Barack Obama

]]> By: bushtool http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44050 bushtool Mon, 17 Mar 2008 02:48:46 +0000 http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44050 Darla, I’d consider your thoughts if they were based on something called reality rather than opinion, false and misleading propaganda and innuendo. Darla, I’d consider your thoughts if they were based on something called reality rather than opinion, false and misleading propaganda and innuendo.

]]> By: Beth http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44049 Beth Mon, 17 Mar 2008 02:36:33 +0000 http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44049 20 years later he is going to make excuses? Why? Because he got caught. Too many questions about this man to take a chance on him becoming the leader of this great nation. 20 years later he is going to make excuses? Why? Because he got caught. Too many questions about this man to take a chance on him becoming the leader of this great nation.

]]> By: bushtool http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44028 bushtool Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:01:30 +0000 http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44028 <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barack-obama/on-my-faith-and-my-church_b_91623.html" rel="nofollow">Res ipsa loquitur</a> Res ipsa loquitur

]]> By: Beth http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44027 Beth Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:05:40 +0000 http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-44027 With the recent stories being reported about Barack Obama and his connections to this pastor, Mr. Wright, as well as his connections to a known terrorist from the 70's; no super delegate from this state should back him. Its bad enough that adults attend this church and listen to this kind of hate, but to bring your children up in a church like this is a shame. Mr. Obama has waited 20 years to disagree with the hate Mr. Wright spews? Do you really believe that he wasnt aware of these sermons and never heard one of them? This plays right into Mr. Obama not putting his hand over his heart, wearing an American flag lapel pin, the comments his wife has made among other things. How can any true American of any color support this man? Why these things have not come out before now is beyond me. All of us who believed Mr. Obama have been made to look foolish, and I for one would like to see it stop now. With the recent stories being reported about Barack Obama and his connections to this pastor, Mr. Wright, as well as his connections to a known terrorist from the 70’s; no super delegate from this state should back him. Its bad enough that adults attend this church and listen to this kind of hate, but to bring your children up in a church like this is a shame. Mr. Obama has waited 20 years to disagree with the hate Mr. Wright spews? Do you really believe that he wasnt aware of these sermons and never heard one of them? This plays right into Mr. Obama not putting his hand over his heart, wearing an American flag lapel pin, the comments his wife has made among other things. How can any true American of any color support this man? Why these things have not come out before now is beyond me. All of us who believed Mr. Obama have been made to look foolish, and I for one would like to see it stop now.

]]> By: Darla Lehman http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-43849 Darla Lehman Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:15:39 +0000 http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/02/21/send-a-message-to-ed-cote-and-the-other-wa-superdelegates/#comment-43849 I read one super delegate intended to cast his vote for Obama, because he is an "exhilrating" speaker. So was Hitler. Beware the word manipulator. We need change. We need to know the hand at the helm has the tenacity, (well displayed by Clinton) and courage and KNOW HOW to initiate changes. Not rehtoric, but actually has been at work. Obama was elected to the Senate because his competition was wimpy, and he is charismatic. Clinton is substantial, real, not a piece of fluff. Clintion as a woman impresses me. Cindy McCain disgusts me. Mrs. Obama with her shame to be an American until now is also disgusting. Women of America, want to unite behind a strong intellectual and accomplished woman. Clinton was working for civil rights in College, when Obama was being raised in another country. What is his American History? What causes did he work for, who does he know? If its McCain and Obama, I will feel torn, I want a steady and experienced hand at the helm. I know Clinton has that. I want her. I don't want to abandon the people of Iraq abruptly, ( torn lives, mommys and babys, innocents) I want to get out, I never supported war, but we need a smooth transition, and leave those people with something going on besides sucide bombs. We need someone strong to fight terriosim, not someone who speaks well. Mob mentality, rabble rousing. Hitler could do it. Speaking well, is not the same as truly working and truly already have displayed grace under pressure. Facing crisis, maintaining dignity, inner strength. She has been through the fire, and he (Obama) is just limp, unknown, and needs to at least get his committe work done, before taking on the challenge of Presidency. Please consider these thoughts. Thanks. I read one super delegate intended to cast his vote for Obama, because he is an “exhilrating” speaker. So was Hitler. Beware the word manipulator.

We need change. We need to know the hand at the helm has the tenacity, (well displayed by Clinton) and courage and KNOW HOW to initiate changes. Not rehtoric, but actually has been at work.

Obama was elected to the Senate because his competition was wimpy, and he is charismatic.

Clinton is substantial, real, not a piece of fluff.

Clintion as a woman impresses me. Cindy McCain disgusts me.

Mrs. Obama with her shame to be an American until now is also disgusting.

Women of America, want to unite behind a strong intellectual and accomplished woman.

Clinton was working for civil rights in College, when Obama was being raised in another country. What is his American History? What causes did he work for, who does he know?

If its McCain and Obama, I will feel torn, I want a steady and experienced hand at the helm. I know Clinton has that. I want her.

I don’t want to abandon the people of Iraq abruptly, ( torn lives, mommys and babys, innocents) I want to get out, I never supported war, but we need a smooth transition, and leave those people with something going on besides sucide bombs.

We need someone strong to fight terriosim, not someone who speaks well. Mob mentality, rabble rousing. Hitler could do it.

Speaking well, is not the same as truly working and truly already have displayed grace under pressure. Facing crisis, maintaining dignity, inner strength. She has been through the fire, and he (Obama) is just limp, unknown, and needs to at least get his committe work done, before taking on the challenge of Presidency.

Please consider these thoughts. Thanks.

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