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		<title>By: Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slim, I guess I didn't state that right. First, I am against any war, but if it does become necessary, you use the utmost force you can bear against that country, and yes, it's cruel, and yes, innocent people will be killed. And Bush screwed up going into Iraq, but since HE made that decision, he should have listen to his military advisers. But BUSH is so stupid, he knew better than people who have made a career studying military history, and how to conduct war.

So no, we should never have invaded Iraq. And the big corporations that run this county make money off the war machine, and Bush and his vice-president represent those corporations, what do you expect?

Also, we do have to defeat the radical nuts, weather they are Muslims, Mormons, Southern Baptist, etc. It's the fringe idiots of any religion that thinks there way is the only way. If you disagree with this, then I would have to assume that you think women, all women, are second class citizens because of someone beliefs. 

And I also agree with Bushtool, we are failing using the present tactics. Any person with common sense will agree that going into Iraq was a disaster. So was NOLA a disaster because of our present elected/stolen bottom feeders.

I also think Bush was right going into Afghanistan and he even F**ked that up. This and this alone should wake all Americans up to what kind of President we have. The man has failed at almost anything he has tried to do.

Our foreign policies are also at fault. Most countries hate us, yet we keep giving them foreign aid. Why? Use that money here at home to help fellow Americans, and if any is left over, then help the poor countries, not with money, but farming machines and advisers, etc. You can't buy friendship, just other bottom feeders. And that is coming home here to roost. 

It's time our own elected bottom feeders start working for American citizens, not illegals, not corporations, but the American people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slim, I guess I didn&#8217;t state that right. First, I am against any war, but if it does become necessary, you use the utmost force you can bear against that country, and yes, it&#8217;s cruel, and yes, innocent people will be killed. And Bush screwed up going into Iraq, but since HE made that decision, he should have listen to his military advisers. But BUSH is so stupid, he knew better than people who have made a career studying military history, and how to conduct war.</p>
<p>So no, we should never have invaded Iraq. And the big corporations that run this county make money off the war machine, and Bush and his vice-president represent those corporations, what do you expect?</p>
<p>Also, we do have to defeat the radical nuts, weather they are Muslims, Mormons, Southern Baptist, etc. It&#8217;s the fringe idiots of any religion that thinks there way is the only way. If you disagree with this, then I would have to assume that you think women, all women, are second class citizens because of someone beliefs. </p>
<p>And I also agree with Bushtool, we are failing using the present tactics. Any person with common sense will agree that going into Iraq was a disaster. So was NOLA a disaster because of our present elected/stolen bottom feeders.</p>
<p>I also think Bush was right going into Afghanistan and he even F**ked that up. This and this alone should wake all Americans up to what kind of President we have. The man has failed at almost anything he has tried to do.</p>
<p>Our foreign policies are also at fault. Most countries hate us, yet we keep giving them foreign aid. Why? Use that money here at home to help fellow Americans, and if any is left over, then help the poor countries, not with money, but farming machines and advisers, etc. You can&#8217;t buy friendship, just other bottom feeders. And that is coming home here to roost. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s time our own elected bottom feeders start working for American citizens, not illegals, not corporations, but the American people!</p>
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		<title>By: slim</title>
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		<dc:creator>slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allen, you really think we should have gone into Iraq and killed 12.5 MILLION people?  Aside from the war crimes aspect, how you could personally live with such an outcome?  Why does your right to live without fear of "frantic Muslims" trump their right to simply LIVE?  I will never understand that kind of thinking.

I am not afraid of Muslims, or any other race, nationality or ethnicity.  Why should I be?  What have they done, in numbers, that can compare to the death and destruction we have achieved in the last 7 years?  What scares me is what fearful white men, with the most devastating military machinery ever known, will do to make themselves feel virile and invulnerable.

Yes, 19 men belonging to a violent cult killed almost 3,000 of our citizens in one day.  But 9/11 was not the work of the Muslim world or the government of Afghanistan; 19 disgruntled and disenfranchised Arabs, mostly Saudis, lashed out at the handmaidens of their repressive and decadent government.  And in response our &lt;strong&gt;whole society&lt;/strong&gt; rained hell down on Iraq - a national that had nothing to do with the cult that attacked us - and killed a million civilians.  How does that make us the better people?

"Frantic Muslims" aren't the problem.  The problem is we prop up unstable dictatorial regimes in order to feed off the oil tit, and reap the violence that we sow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allen, you really think we should have gone into Iraq and killed 12.5 MILLION people?  Aside from the war crimes aspect, how you could personally live with such an outcome?  Why does your right to live without fear of &#8220;frantic Muslims&#8221; trump their right to simply LIVE?  I will never understand that kind of thinking.</p>
<p>I am not afraid of Muslims, or any other race, nationality or ethnicity.  Why should I be?  What have they done, in numbers, that can compare to the death and destruction we have achieved in the last 7 years?  What scares me is what fearful white men, with the most devastating military machinery ever known, will do to make themselves feel virile and invulnerable.</p>
<p>Yes, 19 men belonging to a violent cult killed almost 3,000 of our citizens in one day.  But 9/11 was not the work of the Muslim world or the government of Afghanistan; 19 disgruntled and disenfranchised Arabs, mostly Saudis, lashed out at the handmaidens of their repressive and decadent government.  And in response our <strong>whole society</strong> rained hell down on Iraq - a national that had nothing to do with the cult that attacked us - and killed a million civilians.  How does that make us the better people?</p>
<p>&#8220;Frantic Muslims&#8221; aren&#8217;t the problem.  The problem is we prop up unstable dictatorial regimes in order to feed off the oil tit, and reap the violence that we sow.</p>
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		<title>By: bushtool</title>
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		<dc:creator>bushtool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allen,  you are so right about &lt;blockquote&gt;corporate America is making too much money from this.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think the "fanatic (I assume you meant fanatic and not frantic) Muslims" problem is wildly overstated.

There have always been fanatics and terrorists in the world and to think we can cleanse the world by threats, war, spying, incarceration and torture is a fool's errand.  Killing people with kindness may not always work but what we are doing now is guaranteed to fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allen,  you are so right about<br />
<blockquote>corporate America is making too much money from this.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think the &#8220;fanatic (I assume you meant fanatic and not frantic) Muslims&#8221; problem is wildly overstated.</p>
<p>There have always been fanatics and terrorists in the world and to think we can cleanse the world by threats, war, spying, incarceration and torture is a fool&#8217;s errand.  Killing people with kindness may not always work but what we are doing now is guaranteed to fail.</p>
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		<title>By: Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain is correct on one point. Until the frantic Muslims are defeated soundly, we will have to fight them. But no, we don't have to stay in Iraq for 1 more year. The Iraq people have had enough time to get their act together. 

And if our next President decides to invade a country, then do it the right way. That is destroying 2/3 of the country and destroying at least 1/2 of the population. Cruel, yes, but when you invade a country, do it right at the beginning, and then have the (Marshall plan) ready to move in and help rebuild what we destroyed. 

Also put the surviving population to work to help rebuild their country and train them to govern themselves. But their is no need to invade any country. What our elected bottom feeders need to do is to start working for Americans. Cut foreign aid way down, use that money here at home. Come up with a fair flat % income tax, that everyone pays that %.

This war on the frantics can be over with in 60 days if our elected leaders wanted it to. But corporate America is making too much money from this, so it will never happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain is correct on one point. Until the frantic Muslims are defeated soundly, we will have to fight them. But no, we don&#8217;t have to stay in Iraq for 1 more year. The Iraq people have had enough time to get their act together. </p>
<p>And if our next President decides to invade a country, then do it the right way. That is destroying 2/3 of the country and destroying at least 1/2 of the population. Cruel, yes, but when you invade a country, do it right at the beginning, and then have the (Marshall plan) ready to move in and help rebuild what we destroyed. </p>
<p>Also put the surviving population to work to help rebuild their country and train them to govern themselves. But their is no need to invade any country. What our elected bottom feeders need to do is to start working for Americans. Cut foreign aid way down, use that money here at home. Come up with a fair flat % income tax, that everyone pays that %.</p>
<p>This war on the frantics can be over with in 60 days if our elected leaders wanted it to. But corporate America is making too much money from this, so it will never happen.</p>
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		<title>By: bushtool</title>
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		<dc:creator>bushtool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This goes back to my &lt;a href="http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/01/03/deja-vu-edwards-is-dean-all-over-again/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Deja Vu&lt;/a&gt; post earlier about Edwards following Dean's footsteps.  Dean, according to Dean, dropped out of the race to ensure Kerry unified support.  (Dean was out of money unlike Edwards though.)  How did that work for us?

Edwards was probably promised administration employment by both remaining candidates and that led Edwards to give up the ghost IMO.  He may also have not wanted to be the spoiler down the road and there is absolutely nothing wrong with avoiding that fate.

Let's hope the plan works better this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This goes back to my <a href="http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2008/01/03/deja-vu-edwards-is-dean-all-over-again/">Deja Vu</a> post earlier about Edwards following Dean&#8217;s footsteps.  Dean, according to Dean, dropped out of the race to ensure Kerry unified support.  (Dean was out of money unlike Edwards though.)  How did that work for us?</p>
<p>Edwards was probably promised administration employment by both remaining candidates and that led Edwards to give up the ghost IMO.  He may also have not wanted to be the spoiler down the road and there is absolutely nothing wrong with avoiding that fate.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope the plan works better this time.</p>
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