Comments on: Is Jerry Oliver a “Sore Winner”??

By: Morris Foutch

Morris Foutch — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:45:33 +0000

Just to clarify the aforementioned assertions by Stout Hearts:
1. On the morning of the Port Commission meeting, Jerry Oliver spoke to Arch Miller directly prior to the meeting kick off, requesting time to state his case re the purchase of the Alcoa property prior to cleanup. Jerry had scheduled a training session in Seattle for new Port Commissioners and needed to very quickly leave Vancouver for the 2-1/2 hour trip to Seattle. Miller agreed that Oliver could speak first and Oliver made his case after which he departed the premises.
2. As a first time attendee at any Port public meeting, I was unaware of the agenda control exercised by Miller wherein there was one and only one chance for visitors to speak which was during a reserved time only, however, when Miller attacked Oliver after Oliver had previously told Miller that he was leaving immediately after making his statement, I could not remain silent. Oliver had never, to my knowledge, at any time during the campaign, made any untruthful comment about Miller or the Port operation. I requested time to speak in Olivers behalf and was summarily dismissed. I did not and absolutely will not accept this kind of unethical autocratic behavior from any elected public official at any time. I and many, many others felt that Oliver conducted himself gentlemanly and with honor during the election campaign. Oliver has good business sense and will represent his district in an open, honest manner and will work with Port staff in a business like manner.

By: arturo

arturo — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:19:32 +0000

Thanks for the clarification FOIA GRAS. If Miller did indeed publically state, “…mixed-up…as usual…” then we have a case of sore looser.

My impression of Miller is that of a guy who feels he’s just a bit more important than he really is.

By: FOIA Gras

FOIA Gras — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 01:02:29 +0000

If I may interject as an impartial observer, I see two problems with how the Commish handled Messrs. Oliver and Foutch: responding to Commish-elect Oliver, Miller tells him that he has his facts mixed up. The problem is that Miller prefaces this with “as usual”. When addressing Foutch’s request to speak at the end of the meeting Miller does not deny Foutch’s request to speak until it is clear that Foutch wants to respond to Miller’s response to Oliver’s earlier comments. Miller would have done well to refer Foutch to the 11/27 open comment period as soon as he requested floor time and not after querying Foutch on the nature of his request to speak. This made Miller look conditionally open to giving Foutch the floor until the nature of his request was understood. Perhaps it is the difference between attending the meeting and watching on CVTV but the exchange does not come off as a shouting match on the latter.

I cannot comment on Patella’s “rant” as I did not see a link but his many ruminations in The Columbian letters section are all I need to know about his worldview anyway.

By: arturo

arturo — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:15:55 +0000

Agree with you re: Patella’s remarks. When I read his “tax and spend crowd” in any post, I know I am dealing with someone who cannot possibly understand both the real and de facto function of government.

I certainly hope Mr Oliver sees his position at the Port as one of reconcilliation and cohesion. Generally speaking the prospects are grim when the winner refuses to lay down their weapon after surrender. Is Oliver to become the new Robespierre? That would be worse than Miller’s tax increase.

By: admin

admin — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:53:44 +0000

It’s OK Chief. New software is always a challenge. Just email the admin if you need help.

By: Chief Wahoo

Chief Wahoo — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:45:13 +0000

Please forgive my clumsiness with WordPress software, which is the reason for the poor appearance of my original post this morning. It looks like the Admin has been kind enough to clean up my post, and many thanks are due for that.

The CVTV links would have cluttered up this post, but for reference, Jerry Oliver’s remarks are toward the beginning of the broadcast, and the disruptions from his campaign manager are at the very end. the entire meeting is about 1 1/2 hours long.

Again, please forgive my unfamiliarity with the software, and consider the content…

By: Aneurin

Aneurin — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:07:48 +0000

Links (with an indication of the time marker where Mr. Oliver goes off the rails) would be nice for the CVTV content.