Comments on: hi… http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2007/08/30/hi/ Politics of the People Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:29:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: swimmer http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2007/08/30/hi/#comment-38240 swimmer Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:34:06 +0000 http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2007/08/30/hi/#comment-38240 Slim, People with intense feelings express them intensely. Baird needed to know that he is going against the wishes of his constituents who elected him based on his previous position. We feel betrayed. I moved here from Connecticut, home of Joe Lieberman. What better example of a turncoat is there than that? We don't need more Joe Liebermans or Brian Baird's in the democratic party. We need representatives who are consistent in their positions and don't treat those who elected them as fools by being seduced by the general betrayus's of the world. Swimmer Slim,

People with intense feelings express them intensely. Baird needed to know that he is going against the wishes of his constituents who elected him based on his previous position. We feel betrayed.

I moved here from Connecticut, home of Joe Lieberman. What better example of a turncoat is there than that? We don’t need more Joe Liebermans or Brian Baird’s in the democratic party. We need representatives who are consistent in their positions and don’t treat those who elected them as fools by being seduced by the general betrayus’s of the world.

Swimmer

]]> By: arturo http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2007/08/30/hi/#comment-37850 arturo Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:06:31 +0000 http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2007/08/30/hi/#comment-37850 Welcome Slim, from an outsider. I almost had your reaction to the Baird townhall. Then I reminded myself of Baird's long history of decisions, and the increasingly disorganizrd response his staff makes to polite inquiries. I can't even tell you how many response letters I have been waiting for from this guy, or call backs for that matter. My experience with him and his staff over the last two years has gone from polite concern to utter frustration at being blown off. I was not one of the "peace" crowd. I know many there who were not part of that crowd - though sympathetic to their position - and we were just as pissed. (I did not speak, but I sure applauded) An interesting bit of human behavior was clearly evident. When you ask politely enough times, you begin to raise your voice; when your imperatives are thwarted, your frustration levels increase, when your frustration levels are unbearable you blow. I saw a quote on a blog that sums it up perfectly ( and from another attorney): "We have petitioned, and our petitions have been scorned; we have entreated, and our entreaties have been disregarded; we have begged, and they have mocked when our calamity came. We beg no longer, we entreat no more, we petition no more. We defy them." William Jennings Bryan I would argue that he positioned himself square in the argument using the jingoistic phrasiology of this administration, and it didn't go over very well. Welcome Slim, from an outsider. I almost had your reaction to the Baird townhall. Then I reminded myself of Baird’s long history of decisions, and the increasingly disorganizrd response his staff makes to polite inquiries. I can’t even tell you how many response letters I have been waiting for from this guy, or call backs for that matter. My experience with him and his staff over the last two years has gone from polite concern to utter frustration at being blown off.

I was not one of the “peace” crowd. I know many there who were not part of that crowd - though sympathetic to their position - and we were just as pissed. (I did not speak, but I sure applauded)

An interesting bit of human behavior was clearly evident. When you ask politely enough times, you begin to raise your voice; when your imperatives are thwarted, your frustration levels increase, when your frustration levels are unbearable you blow. I saw a quote on a blog that sums it up perfectly ( and from another attorney):

“We have petitioned, and our petitions have been scorned; we have entreated, and our entreaties have been disregarded; we have begged, and they have mocked when our calamity came. We beg no longer, we entreat no more, we petition no more. We defy them.”
William Jennings Bryan

I would argue that he positioned himself square in the argument using the jingoistic phrasiology of this administration, and it didn’t go over very well.

]]> By: slim http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2007/08/30/hi/#comment-37833 slim Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:19:06 +0000 http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2007/08/30/hi/#comment-37833 Thanks, guys! I'll check out Scribefire... Thanks, guys! I’ll check out Scribefire…

]]> By: Rich http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2007/08/30/hi/#comment-37829 Rich Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:05:01 +0000 http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2007/08/30/hi/#comment-37829 Welcome aboard, Slim! Glad to have you here. Yes, Scribefire is indeed a handy tool. It will also put the respective blog's tags at your fingertips. I use it to singularly post to the half-dozen or so personal blogs I maintain. Welcome aboard, Slim!
Glad to have you here.
Yes, Scribefire is indeed a handy tool. It will also put the respective blog’s tags at your fingertips.
I use it to singularly post to the half-dozen or so personal blogs I maintain.

]]> By: bushtool http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2007/08/30/hi/#comment-37828 bushtool Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:42:14 +0000 http://www.democracyforvancouver.org/2007/08/30/hi/#comment-37828 Slim, I've been a regular reader and fan of your blog, <a href="http://nofishnonuts.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"><strong>no fish, no nuts</strong></a>. I know what you mean about moving. We have New York and Florida in common (forgot I also lived in Metairie, LA for three months way back in 1979). And my spouse regularly says when I complain about the weather here, we are NEVER moving again. Rich has mentioned there is a way to use <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1730" rel="nofollow">Scribefire</a>, a Firefox extension, to post to your blog and at the same time crosspost to d4v. Rich does that with his blog. Welcome to the d4v community. Slim,

I’ve been a regular reader and fan of your blog, no fish, no nuts. I know what you mean about moving. We have New York and Florida in common (forgot I also lived in Metairie, LA for three months way back in 1979). And my spouse regularly says when I complain about the weather here, we are NEVER moving again.

Rich has mentioned there is a way to use Scribefire, a Firefox extension, to post to your blog and at the same time crosspost to d4v. Rich does that with his blog.

Welcome to the d4v community.

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