Democracy for Vancouver

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1. This is sick. We have dictators running our country. The sad part is they are accountable to no one and their low probably hasn’t hit bottom.

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   1. Above comment written by g. kortes on July 2nd, 2007 at 5:21 pm (replies, if any, are attributed separately above).

2. This had to occur. One of the ways I suspect they kept Scooter from “spilling the beans” was that he was assured he would not spend a day in prison.

   So the Bush crime family is just paying back the loyalty earned from Scooter’s failure to incriminate others in the White House.

   Gerald Ford’s pardon of Nixon set the precedent that top officials are “special” when it comes to being able to break the law. Unfortunately, Bill Clinton’s pardons also set a low bar for what is OK behavior. It seems hypocritical to me for anyone to yell foul too loudly on this.

   Perhaps a solution would be to change the way pardons are handled, possibly requiring Congressional approval. But since it seems “we, the people” can no longer get anything changed with respect to our government, I wouldn’t hold your breath trying to change this.

   We can’t even conduct an honest election.

   We desperately need someone who actually will “restore honor and integrity to the White House”. Again I wouldn’t hold your breath.

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   2. Above comment written by bushtool on July 2nd, 2007 at 6:24 pm (replies, if any, are attributed separately above).

3. You have got to be kidding — complaining about this egregious pardon would be hypocritical? Come on. The Mark Rich pardons pale in comparison to this. This pardon is even worse than Ford’s pardon of Nixon.

   Pardoning a high placed staff member in covering up a treasonous crime, treason to shut up a critic of the war, a war which was launched illegally, far outweighs ANYTHING Clinton did.

   The White House even went so far as to shut off their comment phone lines today. But you know what? You can call tomorrow:

   202-456-1111

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   3. Above comment written by Aneurin on July 2nd, 2007 at 11:47 pm (replies, if any, are attributed separately above).

4. I don’t think that Bush cares about the Republican Party, as this will/might come back to hurt the pubbies in the next election.

   The pubbies claim they are the party of Law and Order. This action shows what they think of the law. Of course both parties will SPIN this different ways. But what about the swing voters?

   Just recently Paris Hilton had to do her 23 days of time, her money didn’t mean s$$t, but she wasn’t political connected. Libby was.

   Does this mean that all the people sitting in jail now, and future people who are convicted for perjury, obstruction of justice, can have their jail time commuted? A good defense lawyer might be able to make this happen. A whole new can of worms may have been opened by this action. I guess time will tell.

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   4. Above comment written by Allen on July 3rd, 2007 at 5:06 am (replies, if any, are attributed separately above).

5. I wonder who is going to pay Libby’s $250,000 fine? Surely he will be reimbursed by someone.

   I heard yesterday that Libby will probably also be pardoned, if his appeals all fail (or right before Bush’s term ends, whichever comes first). So does that mean he gets pardoned from paying the fine? I would think so.

   The Supreme Court would almost certainly overturn his convictions in any event.

   These people are truly above the law. Never thought I’d see things come to this…

   Update: Just read that Libby’s defense fund will pay his fine. And that he will probably be offered a cushy job for his trouble by the Republican elite. So there does not appear to be any need to actually pardon him. His won’t need his law license to make a hefty salary. Case closed. Mission Accomplished.

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   5. Above comment written by bushtool on July 3rd, 2007 at 6:09 am (replies, if any, are attributed separately above).

6. Noticed this comment over at OpEdNews.

   Leaderless Democrats

   By taking Impeachment off the table,’ Pelosi and Reid have forfeited their right to leadership’ of the Democratic party. Stopping the Cheney/Bush criminal regime in it’s tracks is imperative, and no other issue confronting America is greater than stopping the Almighty Republican Establishment’s national and international crime spree.

   “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality–judiciously, as you will–we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.” Quote by an anonymous Republican.

   That quote exactly describes the situation today, for tomorrow, and for the last six years. You can’t stop a national and international crime wave while allowing the criminals responsible for the crime wave free-reign to continue committing crimes. Republicans are burying us alive under a mountain of corruption that’s getting bigger every day.

   Demand that Pelosi and Reid step down and relinquish control of congress. They are either unable to understand that stopping a crime wave requires that you stop the criminals, or they are complicit in the corruption.

   Leaderless Democrats can’t win the 2008 presidential elections, and leaders who fail to lead won’t be reelected either. We little’ democrats might not be able to punish Republican criminals, but we damn sure can punish incompetent, or suspiciously enabling Democratic leaders.’

   Impeach, or we’ll stay home on election day.

   It’s beginning to look that maybe the only way to crush the greater of two evils is to abandon the lesser evil. After that, Republicans will crash and burn a surely as the sun will rise tomorrow.

   No pain, no gain.

   by rabblerowzer (0 articles, 192 comments) on Wednesday, July 4, 2007 at 8:21:14 AM

   Perhaps the Dems, by trying to play it safe, will end up losing rather than gaining power. Life is like that sometimes. I know my spouse is not going to vote anymore and she has been (unlike me) a lifelong Democratic voter. Actions and non-actions have consequences.

   But then one can make the argument that voting is meaningless anyway because it is so swayed by media propaganda, corrupted voting systems and illegal acts by partisan election officials.

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   6. Above comment written by bushtool on July 4th, 2007 at 8:32 am (replies, if any, are attributed separately above).

7. Sorry Senator Biden. No Can Do.

   I don’t think calling the White House or Congress will change a damn thing besides maybe allow you to let off some steam.

   The Bush crime family is not running a popularity contest. And Congress has shown they will not act according to the will of the people. So phone calling your discontent is not going to make a difference.

   Real campaign finance reform such as voluntary clean election systems might make a difference; real lobbying reform might make a difference, instant runoff voting might make a difference; removal of paperless voting machines might make a difference; but calling, writing, and emailing your elected officials will not make a difference because they are not listening to you. They are only listening to moneyed interests, political pundits and their own self interest. But they will be sure and tell you otherwise.

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   7. Above comment written by bushtool on July 4th, 2007 at 10:17 am (replies, if any, are attributed separately above).